Instinct de chasse

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A la base tous les chiens ont un instinct pour la chasse quelle soit individuelle ou en meute.
Mais depuis des années la plupart des chiens ont subis une « civilisation »qui leurs a éffacé certains réflexes de prédateurs.
Malgrès cela quelques races n’ont toujours pas perdu ces instinct et en général ces races sont les suivantes : Epagneuls,pointer,braque et griffons car ces dernières ne sont quasi utilisé que pour la chasse.
Et pourtant j’arrive à me surprendre de voir ma chienne chasser,et ceux depuis son plus jeune âge.Pour moi le Staffordshire Bull Terrier devais être un de ces chiens « citadinisés »et sans aucun reperes de chasseur.
A ma grande surprise lors d’une ballade avec Brian nous avons assisté à une mise en chasse de deux de nos chiens (Dude et Chilli).Au fil de la ballade nous avons remarqué une attitude singuliere chez les deux chiens qui ne faisait que humer l’air ambiant et ceux tous les 10 metres.D’un seul coup et sans accords préalable nous vimes les deux chiens partir en contrebas comme attirés par quelque chose.Les deux animaux « quadrillé »le terrain en effectuant une forme de 8 Dude devant faisant de grands cercles et Chilli derriere qui fermait la marche en faisant un travail plus restreint dans la surface.
Etant un habitué des chiens de chasse car mon père en a toujours possédé,je me suis laisser prendre au jeux de cette recherche en etant stupéfait que pour deux chiens nullement dréssés pour cet exercice,la cohésion soit si parfaite.
Depuis cette « découverte » je m’amuse à vérifier les attitudes de Chilli suivant les odeurs ou les bruits qu’elle peux percevoir.Ainsi dernierement profitant du dressage du Griffon Korthals de mon oncle je me suis permis quelque expérience.J’avais en ma possesion une caille (vivante bien sur)que nous utilisons comme appat pour dresser les chiens d’arrêt.Ce dressage peux s’avérer être complexe car la jeunesse du chien que l’on dresse,l’entraine généralement à attraper directement la proie et a la tuer une fois trouvée.Donc je mis Chilli à l’épreuve pour voir sa réaction.Le premier contact avec la proie consiste à faire renifler le chien pour qu’il imprime l’’odeur de sa cible.Une fois l’odeur percue,on va cacher le chien pour pas qu’il voye où le maitre va positionner le gibier.Profitant d’un champs de blé la proie est largement camouflé.Je fais revenir Chilli qui dessuite détachée de sa laisse s’empresse de cherché.elle fait des arcs de cercle avec sa tête pour pouvoir récolter un maximum de reperes olfactif.Quand elle arrive à 2 mètres de l’animal,elle fit quelque chose à laquelle je ne m’attendais pas,elle se mit à l’arrêt,pate avant droite repliée dos droit et truffe dirigée directement sur le gibier.
Je pensais que vu les qualités physiques de cette race,les staffies serait plutôt des chiens courant,ces pour cela que je ne put m’empecher de vérifier sa reaction dans une situation où la proie est en mouvement et de surcroit en mouvement rapide.Donc je la mis face à l’entrainement des courants avec un lacher de lièvre.Une fois la reconaissance faite et le gibier laché la chienne se mis à lui courir derriere.Plus dur de canaliser un staffie qui cours derriere un lapin
Tout cela pour dire que le staffie fais parti selon moi de ces rares chiens qui ne perdent pas cet instinct de chasse,du moins pour l’instant.Et je pense que tous les proprietaires de staffies se sont rendus compte de cette aptitude(je pense surtout à Christophe et Bud^^).
Alors le staffie a-t-il un instinct indélébile ???J’attends vos avis

Très bon texte Matt !
Je pense que oui, le staffie a un instinct indélébile. Ma réponse, n'a rien de scientifique... Juste l'expérience intuitive que j'ai de mes staffords et des staffords que je peux rencontrer... Réponse qui pourra difficilement être développée.

On the base all the dogs have an instinct for the hunting which is individual or in pack.
But for years most of the dogs underwent a "civilization" which their has erased predators reflexes.
Nevertheless some races, never lost there instincts and generally these races are the following ones: spaniels, pointer, turns the wheel and let us scratch because these last ones are almost used only for the hunting.
My bitch manages to catch seeing going hunting, and those since her youngest age. For me Staffordshire Bull Terrier had to be one of these dogs "civilized" and without any hunter's reperes.
In my great surprise during a stroll with Brian we assisted a stake in hunting of two of our dogs (Dude and Chilli) .Thread of the ballad we noticed a singular attitude to both dogs which was only smelling,Pervading air and those all 10 metres. A single blow and without agreements preliminary we saw both dogs leaving below as attracted by something. Both animals "covered" the ground by making a shape of 8 Dude that must making big circles and Chilli behind who closed the walking by making a work more restricted in the surface.
One being used by retrievers because my father always had it, I'm to let take in games of this search, i was stuns that for two dogs by no means drawn up for this exercise, the cohesion is so perfect.
Since this "discovery", I enjoy myself verifying the attitudes of Chilli following the smells or the noises that she can perceive. So recently taking advantage of the training of the Griffon Korthals of my uncle, I allowed myself some experiments. I had in my possesion a quail (living being naturally) whom we use as bait to draw up pointer dogs . This training can turn out to be complex because the youth of the dog that we draw up, leads him generally to catch directly the prey and to kill it found time. Thus I put Chilli in test to see her reaction. The first contact with the prey consists in making sniff at the dog, He prints smell of his target. Then we are going to hide the dog, He must not see where his owner is going to position the game. Taking advantage, one fields of wheat the prey is widely camouflaged.I make Chilli return who, at once untied, begins to look. She makes arcs of a circle to be able to harvest a maximum of olfactive informations. When she arrives at 2 metres of the animal, she made something i didn't expect, she had put herself in pointer) Paw before folded up right-hand side, straight back and the truffle steered directly on the game.
I thought that seen the physical qualities of this race, staffords would be rather hounds, it's for that I not been able to verifie her reaction in a situation where the prey is in movement and especially in fast movement. Thus I put her in hound's training with a release of hare. Once the recognition made and the game released, the bitch began running behind. More hard to channel a stafford who runs behind a rabbit.
All this to say that the stafford make party according to me of these rare dogs which don't lose this instinct of hunting. And I think that all the owners of staffords realized this capacity (I think especially of Christophe and Bud ^^).
Then the stafford has an instinct Indelible???

Merci beaucoup Chris

Hi Celtic Oak,

Here in Australia ‘hunting’ is still very much a sport/pastime. Game dogs of mixed breeds are used in hunting feral pigs. I don’t know of any one personally these days that uses Staffordshire Bull Terriers for the sport. But many years ago there was a chap by the name of Ralph Berman from the Upper Rivers Area of NSW that used to hunt these feral pigs (colloquially it’s called pigging). He used to also breed, with some success Staffordshire Bull Terriers and Game Fowl and went under the MacGlen prefix. In his opinion the majority of pure bred Staffordshire Bull Terriers were not that good for ‘pigging’ as most of the time they were too tenacious or too game that they got themselves hurt a little more than part breds or mixed breeds. According to Ralph, Staffordshire Bull Terriers would even ‘throw caution to the wind’ and tackle any size ‘tusker’. He even went further to say that he had one Staffordshire Bull Terrier that was very promising at the sport. But this SBT’s biggest problem was that at every opportunity he used to jump into the back of the hunting vehicle (ute) and get stuck into the hessian bags that they put the captured piglets in.

Ralph seemed to think that nearly all dogs would not have a problem with readjusting to ‘the hunt’, they would only need acceptance into the ‘pack’.

I sold a young SBT (12 months old) about 20 years ago to a young chap who wanted it not only for a friend and companion but also to go ‘pigging’. He had made a thick leather bib for him and sent me some photos of some of their success. A few years later he paid me a visit. The dog showed no unsoundness as a result of hunting these feral pigs. But his owner did say that if they went pigging with other friends and their dogs, his SBT after finishing a day’s hunt, would find other sport. He would pick a fight with the one or more of the other dogs that were on the hunt with him that day. So they had to make sure that at the end of the day his SBT was safely stowed away.

So maybe it depends on the type of hunting that is required. Whether it’s one man-one dog. Or one man-one pack. And then it’s also whether the dog is mentally suitable for that type of hunting required and at what age it’s introduced to the task. Just my thoughts.


Cheers

Alan Gregory
DEADGAME STAFFORDS

Morning Chris, 'Hope your well?'

I have never encountered a canine, 'of any breed' which has lost its predatory instincts. Many of these instincts are NEVER utilised, as opposed to being erased. As human civilisation no longer requires the canine, 'For daily sustainance' many, modern day dogs play only the part of pet/companion. This is not to say that if they were to be given a task, 'Job of work to do' some would still excel in that task.

It is to his credit that your friend has given Chilli something, 'Tasks' which will utitlise and stimulate her senses.

Jim

Our very own 'chasser of pigs' Sanglier hunter, Knightwood Oaks Bandit